U.S.S. Dana, I completely agree. Whose to say that the tastes of people living in the 2260s don’t begin to favor a simpler, sleek metal design over the flashy lit up design? If you’ve seen the Trek Yards review of the new ship, I had commented this: The one thing I kept asking myself watching this and other debates… why is everyone forgetting the 1701-A? The formula for ‘The Enterprise’ is so simple a child can draw it – a circle and three tubes and some sticks to connect them. Stop torturing yourself by watching something you don’t like. Development of the Constitution-class began in the 2230s when key Fleet personnel, including Admiral William Jefferies and Captain Robert April, came to see the necessity of an all-purpose vessel that could explore space while protecting Federation interests and expanding its reach. TMP finally fixed it by effectively shortening it with the photon torpedo launcher. so I guess we’ll have to wait for another reboot reimagined series to explain why they’re bald. They could have simply enhanced the Klingons a bit. Fan service would have been keeping the 1701 looking exactly like the original, in my opinion. Aside from a few brief moments of the stage production of Macbeth, in “The Conscience of the King” – Arcturian, don’t you know. That’s in the Prime Timeline? But I have also said THIS is the show so you accept it or you don’t at this point and I do. It’s way closer than the awful JJ Prize, so I’m happy. Absolutely. Having a Trekkie handle name doesn’t make you more of a fan than me or anyone else. Also that’s from “Where No Man Has Gone Before”, they that added detail for the 2nd pilot. Do you discount Star Trek VI for the very same reason? And one would imagine with replicators common place, fashion and design fads would churn at a pace that’d make us dizzy with their pace two hundred years from now. Thank you! I like DISCO but it doesn’t taste like Prime Trek to me. What is being done just makes the franchise all the richer while keeping an updated look that was never possible in the 60’s. @mwz — it also means introducing characters and items fans have a high admiration for, which may have little impact on a general audience watching the series for the first time. Discovery NCC-1031 joins the ST:DSS collection. NASA.gov brings you the latest images, videos and news from America's space agency. This list could go on forever. Mjolnir2000 , Aug 12, 2016 I don’t mind the potato peeler. It’s posh, but also strangely gritty as well. Yes coincidentally it’s in about the same spot a window would be. A classic TOS shot that shows off the bow of the ship. The whole concept of a ‘visual reboot’ is crap, and I would have far and away preferred to see an unmodified Enterprise of the vintage seen in TOS, just like I would have much preferred uniforms and klingons that actually looked like TOS. It makes it special to see Scotty sitting on his old bridge in TNG because it told people TOS did exist as we saw it on that show. I don’t see it as fan service. Keep up with all the Star Trek: Discovery news at TrekMovie. Each no-cost Virtual Field Trip comes with a companion guide packed with standards-aligned, hands-on learning activities! They see that the important part of the plays is not really affected by altering the costumes. They also nailed the phasers & communicators. I found this post because I wanted to see a size comparison between the discovery and the Constitution class vessels for a game I have been playing and I kinda want to put my 2 cents in. | February 17, 2018 | People can agree or disagree. Just my thought. On digi-paper, Star Trek Discovery’s timeline is pretty simple. Seems like a descendant of the NX-01 refit. A constitution is an aggregate of fundamental principles or established precedents that constitute the legal basis of a polity , organisation or other type of entity and commonly determine how that entity is to be governed. These seem to be heavily influenced by the design seen in the NX-class of Star Trek: Enterprise. It isn’t James Bond. I’d hazard a guess that the “potato peeler” element of the nacelle pylons is a earlier version of the flush vents/thermal regulator assembly that we see in the TMP refit. When you purchase a Research and Development Pack from the C-Store and open it, you will receive either 10 Lobi … Star Trek is an imagining of what the future will look like and those imaginings are constantly evolving as our current technology evolves. It evokes the refit, which is my favorite sci-fi design ever. At this point in time, the Enterprise wouldn't necessarily be 'special' - just another constitution class out exploring the galaxy, and the Discovery shouldn't be overshadowed in its own show. Just because you and I pictured it to look differently at that time doesn’t mean anything…our assumptions are not canon, only what is shown on screen. As much as I love Trials and Tribulations I sometimes wish that they’d picked an episode without Klingons for the Defiant to travel back to. I am surprised that design has avoided looking outdated through the years, or maybe I am biased as that was the ship I grew up with. I’m not bothered by those but clearly you and others are so yeah the argument is valid even if you can get over the look of it the technology is more advance than it should be. @Reign1701A — I agree. They got it right by placing it in the prime timeline. They went about creating a new story set in a familiar era. Unfortunately social media gives everyone a voice. While these six vessels were requested in 1911 as a reaction to the building by Japan of the Kongō class, the potential use for them in the U.S. Navy came from a series of studies by the Naval War College which stretched over several years and predated the … (DIS: "Context Is for Kings") The class was also utilized by the Terran Empire Starfleet in the mirror universe, although that version lacked spore drive technology. Discovery does not look or feel like anything from TOS outside of the phasers. Something that was not needed or necessary, something we could do without perfectly well. Times ARE far different and how the show can be presented has grown. But since its not, people just have to accept that the show has to appeal to a younger and newer demographic. Enterprise E is my favourite. I actually disagree. ... Commemorate Constitution Day by learning about the nation’s founding document and framework for government. The Enterprise is a good compromise. That’s fine. Of *course* they have addressed it! Listen to Fuller. What is new is the all-CGI ships and architecture, allowing the filmmakers to stage battle scenes with much greater depth of field (in a virtual camera), more moving elements, simulated weather conditions, dust clouds, better compositing, smoke and explosion effects, etc. Of course the other influence that is readily apparent is the (future) refit of the Constitution-class. You'd be upset no matter what then, since the Enterprise as it should look at the time Discovery is set is … Other Star Trek: Discovery projects: It comes in three design families relating to Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek (2009) and Star Trek: Discovery, each composed of several distinct variants.. See the template to the right for a list of playable … While somewhat reminiscent of the refit, it appears to be a little bit shorter and about 50% wider, making it look a bit stubby and less graceful than either the original or refit Enterprise. The technology and visual aesthetics in the show are more advanced than TNG/DS9/VOY and even the Kelvin Timeline movies. Other people, of course, are going to either agree, disagree, or not care one way or the other. If they’re still making Star Trek in 2067 they won’t be using 2017 fx either. Includes: pundus\startrek\federation\disco_constitution\disco_constitution.mdl This last detail is more obscure: only in “Where No Man Has Gone Before” do the impulse engines have multiple nozzles in the back. The Federation Constitution class starship is a set of starship classes from the 23rd century which include the U.S.S. Perhaps there are that many on-board during the show, but that doesn’t mean that number is the ship’s actual capacity. Discovery and its crew must prove that a 930 year old crew and starship are exactly what this new future needs. It just doesn’t gel with an advance looking future. From memory, my gut impression is that it’s in the same range as the Enterprise if you include all the way out to the tips of the nacelles. I love both the original and SyFY versions. Constitution Class USS Enterprise A Bridge TUC. There is an old book about the TOS 12ft model and her construction. Seriously, it’s a beautiful design and a great TOS/DSC/refit/ENT blend as the article describes. Canon is whether Han shot first, not what his gun looked like. You’ll eat anything. She is probably the most well known “character” from Star Trek. Other than that I like it. TOS was a budget TV show in an era where make up and effects aren’t like today, he simply had to make do with what he had. I’m sure at one point that Kirk mentioned “Space Command”. But this apparently is too hard to contemplate, both for the showrunners and the “Discovery can do no wrong” crowd, the latter of whom take it upon themselves to ridicule anyone who would like to see it all fit together. If Gene had the technology today this is how the E would have looked like. Do you discount The Original Series for changing the look of the Enterprise from “The Cage?” Do you discount every episode after “The Corbomite Maneuver” for changing the uniform colors? Yet you can run it with A New Hope as a double feature and the mesh between the two is visually seamless. It seems like this was done to make a wider bridge which would accommodate that window. In fact the very opposite. Excellent work digging out that window/screen photo on The Cage model! Even 1960s TOS couldn’t keep its story straight on occasion. Whose to say the changes aren’t made in the name of stealth? Random thought… The potato peeler shouldn’t be in a section of “unique”. All the snark about “Discovery Can Do No Wrong” crowd is ridiculous. When you see the TOS 11′ fly into camera, it absolutely overwhelms the frame, flying over and under the lens with apparent immensity. :). Same with The Enterprise. I was referring to the haters in general that say that. The lines of the bottom and aft of the engineering section on up to the shuttle bay are very similar to the refit. apparently doesn’t know what the term “cliche” means. Cygnus-X1.Net: A Tribute to Star Trek is maintained by John Patuto. Enterprise as its most famous craft. I love every bit of it, including the potato peelers. FLB, I agree,I have no problem with the neck,and love the ship. Given that we’ve seen pull-out shots right from the Discovery’s bridge window, it shouldn’t be too hard to get some min/max on the size. But overall, not bad. That was because ILM was doing the VFX for GEN (after building the model and doing most of the shots for FARPOINT before giving way to the regular in-house team), not because of complaints by fans. The model is at a 1:105 scale. After arriving in the 32nd century, Discovery's crew has been on a … The refit USS Enterprise from Star Trek: The Motion Picture, A similar view of the Discovery Enterprise. I think the mistake was was trying to base another show in the 23rd century or at least this part of the century. Your argument is that between the two the ship was completely refitted and then rolled back to iot’s previous version in time for Where No Man Has Gone Before. 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